“On Beyond Bion”
The 10th annual Margaret Rioch Lecture
presented by Dr. Georgia Sorenson,
with commentary by Dr. James MacGregor Burns
Sponsored by the Washington
Baltimore Center for the Study of Group Relations
May 28 – June 11, 2004
On Beyond Bion
Georgia Sorenson
It is truly an honor
to give the 10th Annual Margaret
Rioch Lecture1.
I use the term “lecture” loosely, given this format. Rioch would have enjoyed (as well as challenged)
the transformation of a lecture to a blog.2 Special thanks to Washington-Baltimore
Center Program Chair Joseph Schmidt for organizing and WBC president
Michael Speer for authorizing such a creative forum and to all
of you who are participating with me. I offer my appreciation
to our discussant, leadership scholar James MacGregor Burns as
well.
The title of this talk, On Beyond Bion, pays tribute to a small
book by a great American philosopher, Theodore Geisel, known to
many as Dr. Seuss. Geisel
authored On Beyond Zebra, a phantasmagoric exploration
of a boy who challenged his playmates to stretch their imagination
beyond the traditional 26 letters of the alphabet – from A (Ape)
to Z (Zebra) to create an extended alphabet. You might say he
dealt in unauthorized space:
"In the places I go there are things that I see
That I never could spell if I stopped with the Z.
I'm telling you this 'cause you're one of my friends.
My alphabet starts where your alphabet ends!"
Wilfred
Bion, of course, was such a thinker, a creator of new realms
and constructs. His work, especially his ideas concerning the
group-as-a-whole, the here-and-now, and basic assumption life,
continue to be vital to our understanding of group life.
Bion was certainly On
Beyond Zebra.
Four decades after Margaret Rioch founded AKRI
to carry on the work of Wilfred Bion and others, it is possible
that some of you will know nothing at all about Wilfred Bion or
Margaret Rioch. Nevertheless, both remain with us today as shadow,
guide, ghost, or foil, as do all our group relations ancestors.
They are present in our work in a very real way, as I will
discuss later.
Margaret Rioch returned
to me – or to us if you agree this was our collective social dream
– a couple of weeks ago, shortly after I was asked to deliver
the Rioch lecture. I am a little hard of hearing in real life,
and in my dream I couldn’t quite understand what she was trying
to say. So I asked her
to repeat herself – imagine that – of course she didn’t. But such is her legendary tenacity that she
did come back the next night in full force and arched her eyebrow
and told me in no uncertain terms to “harness” (or was it “harvest?”)
our collective work. So
be it. You decide.
Today I want to address
several aspects of organization life that are largely invisible
yet are central to different stages of organizational development,
including our own. The enduring power of what I call the organization-idea
and it’s founding and their implications today will be discussed
initially. Secondly, the juxtaposition of the past, present, and
future in organizational life and how it is utilized and managed
will be introduced next. Lastly,
I will show how “the space-between” or what I call the
“blue notes “of organizational life yields rich material
– perhaps most importantly the
floating world of unauthorized space. I will offer a few
stories from my own long association with Rioch and others-- with
the hope that those of you reading this will offers yours, too.
The first element, wholly invisible yet central to
the life of an organization, is the realm of ideas. It is popular to focus on leadership or leaders
these days, but both the process of leadership and leaders themselves
are merely the handmaidens of ideas.
Ideas – some ennobling and some nefarious – germinate actions
and common purposes. The
organization-idea precedes the primary task, which serves to bring
the idea alive.
An organization’s mission or purpose is often the explication
of its central idea. Leadership, it might be said, is the implementation
(and in the case of referent-leadership, the embodiment) of the
organization-idea. Mary
Parker Follett captured the essence of this invisible leadership
in an article written in the 1930s and published after her death.
Leader
and followers are both following the invisible leader – the common
purpose… And I believe that we are coming more and more to act,
whatever our theories, on our faith in the power of this invisible
leader.3
Ideas grow great leaders. Think of the
ideas that have produced great leaders, whether activist leaders,
political leaders, or intellectual leaders.
The idea of democracy, the idea of markets, and the idea
of the unconscious are three great historical ideas, some of which
manifested in revolutionary or organizational form.
Bion was very interested in ideas, and
in fact, developed a theory of thinking that gave ideas an almost
iconic stature. He borrowed from Plato's theory of inherent
forms and pure thoughts. His
notion of ideas – somewhat similar to Berkeley’s
– is based on his premise that pure thoughts exist before there is a mind to think them. Bion’s
“thoughts without a thinker,” inhabited an invisible realm
ISO a mind with moral imagination to bring them to form.
A well-tuned mind, he contended, was a receptor or container
of an idea.
I could add a personal note here that
illustrates the floating world of “ideas-in-search of mind.” A week ago, while writing this talk, I received
an unexpected email from a person I did not know (full disclosure:
referred by Mannie Sher) Amy Fraher, who asked me:
I've
been looking for photographs of group relations people – in particular
Margaret Rioch. I've asked about dozen people and no one has any.
As it turns out she is writing a book4
about idea organizations. She wrote:
I
develop the construct of idea organizations – organizations designed
to generate intellectual concepts, rather than to produce goods
or services – in order to examine the psychodynamic workings of
such institutes as the National Training Laboratories, Tavistock
and A. K. Rice Institutes as well as early psychoanalytic societies.
I show how the innovation these idea organizations require to
survive becomes the focus of ruthless attacks and inter-group
rivalries, creating a cycle that puts the organization itself
at risk.
I was not surprised
to learn of the organizational complexities associated with organizations
of ideas. Max Lerner once said, “Ideas are weapons” and
no doubt there is certain violence to challenging orthodoxy. An idea, by definition, involves disruption
and a throwing off of the old ways of seeing things. Bion was intimately cognizant of the inherent
destructive nature of ideas. Nicola
Glover, in her work on psychoanalytic aesthetics writes,
In
the creative process, Bion shows that thinking involves the dismantling
of previous views and theories, allowing the formation of new
ideas. In changing one's way of thinking, the container has to
be dissolved before it is reformed. Bion regarded the effort of
dissolution as having the quality of a small psychic catastrophe,
a "going-to-pieces"… The ability to tolerate this upheaval
will result in growth, but it is a painful process that is dependent
on the individual's capacity to withstand fragmentation, anxiety,
and doubt.5
I do not have access to the catastrophe
Bion wrought in bringing forth his concepts developed in what
he modestly called his Leaderless Group Project.
There is no doubt, however, that he faced such forces,
as he remarked much later, in 1977:
Whether
it is a group of people or an individual which is giving birth
to an idea, the pains which are associated with that experience
are extremely upsetting and disturbing, and somebody will certainly
try to put a stop to it; nobody likes pain. I should be surprised
if the phagocytes do not collect and try to gobble up this new
idea before it gets more troublesome, before it turns into a contagion
or an infection.
In
fact, Bion would explore the invisible and disruptive nature of
ideas throughout his life. In Bion’s second Brazilian lecture
Lawrence writes that “Bion suggested that perhaps Milton's blindness
was induced by the unconscious desire to see ‘those things invisible
to man’ which Milton reveals in Book III of Paradise Lost.6
We are wise to remember
that ideas shape history and institutions, and that ideas have
consequences, some of which thread through our life and work for
centuries to come.
The
A.K. Rice Institute was founded in 1964 by Margaret Rioch.
On the plane ride back from her first conference, Rioch
told me later, “I had already determined that I would do my
best to import this kind of event to America.”7 It would be a complicated birthing.
To situate the new organization
in place in time means that its very presence disrupts. To establish an organization means to create
friction in the field, between and among similar organizations,
social networks, funders, ideological agendas, and deeply political
infrastructures. AKRI had to make its place among existing institutions
and frameworks such as NTL, Lewin’s centers, and other such institutions. Eric Trist describes such an event in terms
of a “turbulent field”
of increasing complexity.
He should know. During
the 1960s, there was considerable
disruption at the Tavistock Institute. Trist was on hand to see
Tavistock split into two major groups, with the Human Resources
Centre (HRC) led by himself and the smaller Center for Applied
Social Research (CASR) organized around Ken Rice. To some degree
that split represented the dual focus of socio-technical consultation
and psycho-social consultation.
It has also been described as more personality-driven,
but clearly the work was headed in two distinct directions. To
add to the complication, the School
of Family Psychiatry
and Community Mental Health, the Institute for Marital Studies,
and the Institute for Operational Research were also subsumed
and the organization reorganized into a matrix structure.8
Rioch became involved
with the Tavistock work during this turbulent period and it was
to have a profound effect on her personally.
In June of 1992, four years before her death, she began
to record some of the early history of the AKRI with me.9
In 1962 my husband, Dr. David McKenzie
Rioch and I entertained at dinner an Englishman, named Cyril Sofer,
who was visiting the US in
the hope of learning something or other which he could not learn
in England. In the course
of a wide-ranging conversation he mentioned that the Tavistock
Institute of London
was offering to the general public (perhaps not so general) a
type of experience, which, so far as I knew, we did not have in
the US.
One American male advanced student
had attended such an event in England,
but had been extraordinarily secretive about it afterward, so
that no one else from American had attended the following years.
I made some not very complimentary comment
on the American, whom I knew slightly. My curiosity was
greatly aroused by what I heard and I succeeded in getting Dr.
Sofer to tell more. The detail which he did give, I do not remember.
But true to my promise, the next spring when the event in England
was to be repeated, I found myself, together with my friend, Dr.
Morris Parloff, on the plane for London.
Together we visited the London Tavistock
Clinic and were given to understand the ‘conference’ which we
both intended to attend, was indeed something of a mystery to
those who had not attended, and was spoken of by those who had
attended with a kind of semi-religious fervor.
As we left the conference to go back
to London, I found
myself weeping quite unabashedly, knowing this was a very important
event in my life which was now at an end.
I still have a clear memory of realizing this was a high
point in my life.
Rioch was to align herself
with the HRC and Rice and bring the work to America. Some years later after
his death she named the institute after him.
Even the naming involved turbulence. Miller was adamantly
opposed to naming it after Rice, asserting that it fostered an
unhealthy dependency on a charismatic leader.
He and Rioch apparently had quite a row about it, and she
stubbornly refused to reconsider.
I don’t want to dismiss
what must have been tremendous excitement about these luminous
new ideas and this new American enterprise.
In the early days, there were friendly historical ties
through Kurt Lewin’s efforts and others.
I hope one of you will share some of those early stories
in the blog that follows. But we know, too, that “change has its enemies,” as Robert Kennedy
so often reminded us. Undoubtedly
the chaos and contention was surely there, too, as the work would
attempt to situate itself in an environment of American T-groups,
NTL, and others working in a similar genre.
Organizations that survive beyond
the founding stage, such as our own, become containers of the
Past, Present, and Future and to lead them is exceedingly rich
and complex. In such organizations,
leaders are always Janus-like
figures, looking forward and backward simultaneously. A successor
is both a leader and a follower, by definition, and must
come to terms with the organizational legacy and the founder’s
ghost. A friend with the Disney Company told me recently
that some forty years after Walt Disney’s death, “that’s not the
way Walt would have done it,” is still heard at board meetings.
Similar pronouncements are sometimes heard about Margaret Rioch.
Interestingly, one of
our organizing ideas is “here-and-now” and yet “then and there”
is etched upon our source code.
While our founding remains mostly invisible to me, I can
feel its footprints in conferences over the years. How could it
be otherwise? Imported
from a chaotic or at least unsettled organization in England
by an American woman whose purposes were complex, we were birthed
into a certain culture of dependency, alcoholic behavior, sexual
liaisons, breakdowns, Vietnam,
Watergate, and other irrational behavior.
As William Faulkner once
astutely reminded us: “The past isn’t dead. It isn’t even past.10 We are
all aware of conference staff issues mirrored in the membership
and visa versa, but so too is our genetic and organizational history.
In some conferences there is a certain feel of enchantment.
As a director of conferences, I have experienced the enchanted
aspects of conference life and for a brief time in the conference
embodied/re-enacted aspects of our organization’s history.
It was crazy-making as well as fascinating.
I also had the sense in my enchanted conference of working
reparatively across time to some degree, healing old history.
I was fortunate to have an Associate Director11 who could work in two realms and knew
me well. Though I would
have not foregone the experience, I would have liked to have been better prepared
for it. Perhaps my experience
gives voice to what others may have sensed and we can begin to
talk of it.
This I do know: we need
to know our history, to reclaim it. We have some excellent work
and written history, including some work by Larry Gould, but it
has not been widely taken up. Understanding that organization-ideas and foundings
are necessarily violent and deconstructive, we can have compassion
and forgiveness as well as appreciation. It certainly would support
our understanding of this work in a broader way.
Thirty years ago I was
invited to dine at the Rioch’s who lived nearby.
I was a young undergraduate at American
University. I wasn’t
used to professors asking me to dinner.
I brought her irises and their cook, Fernanda,
made an elegant and simple dinner. We talked of a new translation
of the Tao te Ching that I had given the Riochs some weeks earlier. David suggested I read the philosopher George
Santayana. A short while
later I read the works of Santayana, and especially noted his
warning, “those who cannot remember the past are condemned to
repeat it.” Was this David Rioch’s gentle message to me? Did he
know I would be writing about this some 30 years later?
I do not believe, as Santayana did, that the present moment
is predetermined by the past, but I do think that while “history
may not repeat itself, it rhymes.”12
Let me illustrate the
power and rhyme of the past-present-future by discussing the work
of an installation artist. I
believe the use of simile will illustrate the organizational complexity
of non-linearity that I have alluded to earlier.
There
is an installation artist, Shimon Attie, whose work reveals the
past in public sites. His
work has been described this way:
These “acts of remembrance” “seek to give visual form to
the personal and collective histories that are latent -- but not
visible -- within our cities' architecture.” Attie explores our
relationship with the remembered and mediated past. In a work in the Lower East Side in the US,
Between Dreams and History, and later in a work, Untitled Memory
in San Francisco, he projected with lasers old photographs of
the buildings from the last century onto the glass facades of
buildings where they once stood. [Thus the photograph of the building
as it was in the late 18th century lies atop a modern
glass apartment building.] Then he photographed the buildings
with their architectural ancestors projected upon them, to introduce
still a third dimension in time, which he entitled Between Dreams
and History.13
So how do we manage
the mess of buildings, ghosts, and collective and mediated past
– all in the present let alone construct a future? And why should
we? Isn’t this heresy in a here-and-now organization?
One of Bion’s legacies
was his gift of the here-and-now (as opposed to there-and -then). The “present moment” is a core construct of
Zen Buddhism. (Aka “Be Here Now”). Bion and David Rioch both spent
their childhoods in India,
and together with Margaret Rioch, were early western Zen students. Margaret, as some of you know, was a collaborator
with Daisetz Suzuki who is
credited with bringing Zen to America.
Students of Zen are
quite attached to their conception of here-and-now, I can assure
you. In 1972 I took a walk along a canal with a Zen
teacher. It was in the
aftermath of Hurricane Agnes and the C
& O Canal,
a treasure and respite in Washington
DC, had been devastated. Great
oaks and sycamores lay dying on their sides and I was filled with
sadness. These trees had been my friends since childhood. It would take decades to replace them and I
just couldn’t shake my despair.
“What?" the Zen teacher exclaimed, "These are
marvelous logs. I don’t see any trees here at all.”
Even the Zen teacher,
however, conceded that the memory of the trees and the hoped for
future of new growth, existed in the present moment alongside
those stalwart logs.
Today, some thirty years
later, I am impressed with the increasing recognition of the curvilinear
nature of time, and the Zen master’s response.
I certainly experienced it in the fall 2002 conference
I directed in Washington, D.C.
I often see its representation in popular culture, whether
it is Atties’s installations, groups of “post modern primitives,”
family historians offering reparative work with one’s ancestors,
or a recent book, “The Future of the Past,” by Alexander Stille.
Time and task are often isomorphic.
The recognition of clinical isomorphism
was described by analyst Edgar Levenson:
As we attempt to elaborate the patterns of
behavior and the consistent relationships of these patterns to
different aspects of the patient’s life, we see that there are
not only enduring patterns but also a remarkable homology of pattern,
over and over in every aspect of the patient’s life. The same
structure runs through language, past history, present behavior,
fantasies, dreams, and behavior in the therapy room. Recognition
of this isomorphism was at the core of Freud’s clinical perceptions.
Indeed, the ability to detect and elaborate isomorphic patterns,
regardless of the metaphor, may well be at the core of therapy
or for that matter, any creative process.14
Bion suggested – after
Eliot – that our work be focused “beyond memory and desire,”15 but later he, too, found himself in the mobius
loop of non-dual time. In
his later years, his own sense of the here-and- now transformed
into this “multi-timensional” realm and he wrote of it in the
paradoxically and appropriately titled A
Memoir of the Future and The
Past Presented.
In group relations work
we find isomorphism and fractals everywhere else, why do we continue
to exclude the isomorphism of the here-and-now?
Even more important, how do we manage and deploy it in
conferences and consultation?
A last invisible realm
I will speak of today emerges as an organization assumes its identity
as it becomes embedded in extra-organizational life.
This is what I call the “space between” and may be roughly
analogous to what some have called the “boundary regions.”
The I Ching (Book of Changes) refers to it as chi zoshiki (chi invisibility)
and it is seen as a powerful invisible extension of the visible.
The boundary regions – called free space by Harry Boyte16 – are spaces
not controlled by the organization and are often realms of creativity,
power, and innovation in the private sector. What has been described
as “unauthorized space” and treated accordingly in past conferences
appeared in the form of groups named “floating world” and “blue
notes” in the intergroup event of the conference I spoke of earlier.
I often use a metaphor
for the fullness of “the space between” since it is extremely
hard to define what cannot be seen. While unseen, physiologically it can be a quickening
energy, undigested rawness, a chill down the spine, or a churning
stomach. Unlike pornography,
you’ll know it if you don’t
see it.
I have compared
it in other work17 to jazz-great Thelonious Monk’s
masterly use of “blue notes.”
Blue notes comprise the music that takes place in the “space”
between notes. Jazz critics attribute the genius of Monk’s
remarkable music to the nuance, phrasing, and rhythm of the spaces
between the formal notes. That space of course, is completely
invisible. But it is the relationship between notes that
makes them powerful, not the notes themselves.
If we extend this analogy to leadership, invisible leadership
takes place in the space between people or in the spaces between
organizations.
The space-between is
of course not new to us. Clinician and Washingtonian Harry Stack
Sullivan’s use of object relations is a therapeutic equivalent.
Sullivan, who worked with Rioch at Chestnut Lodge in nearby Maryland,
demonstrated that the space between patient and doctor would replicate
past dysfunction. Drilling
down into the “space between” is everything you need.
So what
bearing does this have on organizations, on our organization?
For maturing organizations, particularly in the 21st
century, it is the space between organizations – again, the so-called
unauthorized space – that yields the harvest.
During this
time of AKRI transition and change, it would be wise to look
at the “space between” between WBC and the “other” – whether other
affiliates, AKRI, or even our co-sponsors.
What can we learn by exploring these realms? What activities have the “floating world” –
perhaps the virtual world? – engendered? What creative but unauthorized
activities are happening there?
Have we publically addressed the competition and collaboration
between and among centers/affiliates/AKRI?
If we drill down deep into unauthorized space we might
find where the real work occurs.
What has happened to the notion of linear time when we
discover the child who birthed the mother institution is collaborating
in being re-organized away from the mother? In mobius time, is
the child now the father to the man?
(I am speaking here of WBC’s role in the founding of our
former organization.).
The etymology of “innovation”
is from the Latin innovare
to renew, and from novare
to make new again. Can we dare innovate, and by that I
mean honor and examine our roots in the here-and-now?
Can we remember and reclaim our history to work reparatively
and creatively in the future knowing that all ideas and foundings
must by definition be imperfect? Do we dare know and forgive?
I think we can be fearless
in this fearful world, because we have been given by Bion and
Rioch and so many others the capacity to see what is unseen and
to speak to it. In Zen, we say: “return to your original face,
the face you had before you were born.”
Let us venture into
the mystery, on beyond Bion, beyond memory and desire, beyond
innovation and no innovation, beyond authorized space, beyond
linear time, beyond harvest/harness, to our original face.
A place deeply creative, new, and yet familiar, too.
We shall not cease from exploration
And the end of all our exploring
Will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time.18
Conversation
with James MacGregor Burns
Ideas are needed to create a different future.
Ideas are central to change, obviously. The first idea related
to a change effort, is the idea of change itself.
Then the question is, evaluating the idea against a backdrop
of a whole set of values, – ethical values and moral values.
These values offer you opportunities to test and measure
the impact of your ideas.
It is crucial that the mission is broad enough
to capture your idea. If
there is going to be a new vision, it is probably better to start
a new organization. It’s very hard to change organizations anyway,
but to change a mission is a huge wrenching operation.
I think it’s often better to set up a new organization.
I see transforming leadership – large scale change
– involving five central components:
First, it must be
articulated.
Second, it is planned. We’re talking about change that is not just
happenstance.
Third, it is comprehensive
and systematic-it can
involve some of the smaller elements, but only ones that lead
to more comprehensive change.
Fourth, it is enduring,
lasting. Not like the French government, for example, which starts
with a monarchy, then has a revolution, and then slips back to
a monarchy, then a revolution again. This would not be enduring
change.
Lastly, it is measurable
by values – moral and
ethical values – and by results. In other words, real change.
Results mean actual change measured by values.
This is an interesting point in terms of change;
usually we feel the most effective change is something that's
comprehensive, let’s say the establishment of the TVA, or the
New Deal, that sort of thing. The big changes are shaped by a guiding idea.
And that is true to some extent true of the highway
system in the US,
for example. The federal highway system is one of the most amazing
systems we have in the US. And it’s a good example to use when we talk
about big change and a guiding idea, because we can look at the
great mixture of efforts geared toward one big idea, highway safety.
Highway safety is kind of a negative idea, because
it’s preventing something from happening, instead
of making things happen. Still, I’ve often reflected on how a single
solution approach to highway safety would not work. It’s such
a collection of so many efforts and things…the quality of the
car, the experience of driver, the regulations, car safety inspections,
driver education, as well as a myriad of little things like truck
runaway areas for faulty brakes on mountains. All this takes tremendous regulation, too.
There are literally dozens and dozens of efforts.
And while we still have terrible death tolls, we have done a lot,
too. . To me, those efforts are all aspects of incrementalism
and a scattershot approach – do I do this? or do I do that?
Try something else. There
are literally scores of changes that are tried. But they are all
done under one very specific idea, which is safety.
So when you have a central organizing idea, you can organize
every effort around that idea. In this case safety. Bottom line in all this, you’ve always got
to have an idea, a lasting idea, to lead major change.
The first the thing would be to talk with everyone
who is relevant to the organization, not just the …other leaders,
but the people way down the line, talk to the workers, janitors,
secretaries, as a starter.
You’re coming into a group of people, and the
first step is to talk with the people, find out their views of
the present organization, grievances, and their own ideas about
the organizations.
Too often we think of institutions as entities,
even bricks and mortar. But
really organizations are a collection of people.
I think the founder has to have a very clear
sense of the liabilities as well as the strengths, and the one
liability, whatever worked for the founder, may not work for new
leadership.
The core mission of an organization should not
change, but new items would be added and some dropped. The main
thing about a new person coming in after the founding period,
is that now the best time to make changes, that’s why I
suggested right away to try to find out what people think. There is a lot of good will with a new person
coming in, and people expect that person to make changes. In fact, if the new leader didn’t, there might
be some questions asked. They
should use that early period to strike while the iron is hot.
Once you get past the turbulence of the founding
period, you get into an
establishmentarinism mode, I think the real tough thing is how
do leaders carry on the vision and mission of the original organizational
idea, because that is a powerful
force, it created the organization.
Beyond the founding period, it takes preserving the original
idea and lots of innovation, keeping one’s moral compass, often
through great changes…
It’s very tough to do…it really calls for inspirational
leadership.
[1] By way of illustrating
the point about the need for collected history, no one at WBC
or elsewhere can remember how many Rioch lectures have been
delivered, and after some recollections of past lectures, settled
on the number 10.
[2] For those unacquainted with the term, a “blog”
is an internet discussion.
[3] Cited in Sorenson,
Georgia
and Hickman, Gill, Invisible Leadership, Boundary
Crossing, International Leadership Association, 2000.
[4] Fraher, Amy. A
history of group study & psychodynamic organizations.
It can be preordered now on www.fabooks.com
[7] Recorded conversation
of Georgia Sorenson and Margaret Rioch, June 8, 1992.
[9] Recorded conversation
of Georgia Sorenson and Margaret Rioch, June 8, 1992
[10] Faulkner, William,
Requiem for a Nun.
[11] Nine bows to Zachary
Green.
[12] I believe I heard
this on an NPR promotional spot.
[15] Notes on memory
and desire, Psychoanalytic
Forum, 1967
[16] Evans, Sarah and Boyte, Harry,
Free Spaces (New York:
Harper and Row, 1986),
[17] Sorenson,
Georgia
and Hickman, Gill, Invisible Leadership, Boundary
Crossing, International Leadership Association, 2000.
[18] Eliot, T.S. The Giddings,
Four Quartets
Comments Received
On Beyond Bion
Posted by JoAn Knight Herren (158.71.41.158) on
05:14:26 28/05/04
Thank you for this inciteful "lecture" and discussion. I find it
particularly fascinating that at this time of "Knowledge Management" we
are able to range far and wide, from Seuss to Mary Parker Follett...whose writings
I've admired for years...and piece together wonderful new ways to stretch
our minds and our organizations.
And, it is such fun!
Thanks, again...
JoAn
"On Beyond Bion"
Posted by Toni Ward (205.222.244.140) on
06:50:26 28/05/04
Thanx, Georgia and JMacBurns for your work and to Joe for giving
WBC members an opportunity to use technology in this way.
My thoughts: WBC has a new President, a woman, who has already
begun to take up the issues addressed in this "lecture".
She's asking vital, historical questions of the WBC membership.
She's been known to operate in "unauthorized spaces" in
the past and may be doing so presently. For the future I anticipate
she'll refrain from thinking "outside the box" since
Bion helped us understand there is no box. More later! Toni
ideas, leadership and change
Posted by Jacquie
Moloney (24.61.112.118) on 06:55:57 28/05/04
I enjoyed the licture and the concepts put forth around ideas
being the center of leadership.
However, I have to disagree with the notions that old ideas
or organizational structures have to be dismanteled to accommodate
new ones. I believe it is most effective when old ideas are
incorporated into new ways of thinking about problems. Managing
change seems to go easier, in my opinion, whenpast ideas are
given their proper and due respect.
Jacquie Moloney
continued..."Bion"
Posted by Toni Ward (205.222.244.140) on
11:45:36 28/05/04
....I pondered the current U.S. leadership and their clumsy attempts
to make cultural changes in the mideast.
But the lecture kept me w/the idea of women in leadership roles
making significant change via "discoveries". In addition
to Margaret Rioch and Georgia Sorenson another woman came to
my mind: I just finished reading "Living History" by
Hillary Clinton. She's sure got a perspective on history,
is surely "present" as a U.S. Senator. Does the future
hold out the promise of a woman V.P. to energize the Kerry ticket??!! Toni
Ideas as independent of Thinkers, etc.
Posted by Bob Gerber (67.86.108.184) on
07:18:49 29/05/04
A few thoughts:
I have a circle of colleagues who hold the frame of reference
that it is more powerful to see ideas as "thinking" or
having us rather than thinking that it is we who "have" ideas.
Understanding is understood as "standing under" something
greater than oneself, something that can inform you. This is
an act of 'putting-oneself-under the-influence-of ' rather
than 'having-"command"-over '. It clearly
implies that the idea dominates, not the thinker.
Since before we could record our history, shamans, mystics
and spiritual traditions have been in the business of serving
and transmitting ideas for the benefit of all.
JG Bennett explored this view in his major work: "The
Dramatic Universe" (a four volume set). In the
4th volume, on history, he explores human history as a progression
of defining ideas which determine the meaning of different
ages and cultures. His book: "Gurdjieff Making a New World",
explores the Idea governing Gurdjieff s mission and how Gurdjieff
was in the business of changing the world through serving and
establishing certain ideas in(to) the modern world.
There is a somewhat mad genius of my acquaintance: AGE Blake,
who is an expert in the realm of intelligence. For us Intelligence
is the arena of ideas and our being in relationship to them.
This is an understanding of intelligence not as a function
of the human mind but as a realm of potential to which we can
have access.
Henri Bortoft has written a book which is for me the most valuable
and practical resource for working with intelligence. It is
called: "Goethe s Scientific Consciousness". It is
now available as the middle section of his more comprehensive
book: "The Wholeness of Nature".
"
The Structure of Scientific Revolutions" by Thomas S.
Kuhn is another relevant resource. In it he shows how even
science progresses by a movement of ideas and not, as one might
expect, by discovering new data.
I apologize for not having more complete references. I encourage
anyone interested to use Google, etc. and you should have no
trouble finding the material I have referenced:
JG Bennett
The Dramatic Universe
Gurdjieff Making a New World
AGE Blake
Henri Bortoft
Goethe s Scientific Consciousness
The Wholeness of Nature
Thomas S. Kuhn
The Structure of Scientific Revolutions
Re: Ideas as independent of
Thinkers, etc.
Posted by Georgia Sorenson (205.188.116.130) on 17:59:26
29/05/04
In Reply to: Ideas as independent of Thinkers, etc.
posted by Bob Gerber
Interesting to hear of different traditions with a similar conception
of ideas. I wouldn't be surprised if Bion came under the
influnce of
Gurdjieff or Bennett. Bion was English, too.
In terms of group relations, we think of individuals representing group-wide
phenomena, but I don't know that we have treated ideas per se in a similar
manner.
Rioch Lecture
Posted by Zachary Green (152.163.252.161) on 09:45:34
29/05/04
The opening allusion is excellent. It is a perfect metaphor
for the Work...it DOES begin where the alphabet ends. I am further
touched by the reference to the ancestors. It is rare to have "speakers" acknowledge
the absent presence of those whose words and work continue through
us without our direct knowledge or recognition.
Perhaps Margaret meant to harness and harvest...If this is
the case, the lecture goes a long way towards making both a
reality...
Zachary
comments on lecture
Posted by Bruce Avolio (68.13.50.50) on
07:43:06 30/05/04
Gallup had a profound idea, "helping people be heard" that
created the poll. It is my view the core of what constitutes
profoundly positive leadership.
I met a very senior manager in Germany, who worked for Media
Saturn, he told me that the way he guages the effects of his
leadership, is how many times people who work with him say, "I
have an idea".
Most organizations I work with including universities, have
an average intellectual idea quotient (sum of its parts) that
is far lower than that observed in practice. Hubris is usually
one of the "down forces" on the quotient.
The institutionalization of a profound idea is probably the
most significant human challenge and here is where the contribution
of organizations can play a profound role. We create organizations
to institutionalize the idea...unfortunately in many cases
more time is given to thinking about the idea than the organization
that is meant to sustain it.
re: comments on lecture
Posted by Georgia Sorenson (149.174.164.18) on 12:34:20
30/05/04
In Reply to: comments on lecture posted
by Bruce Avolio
I was so interested in your idea that organizations of idea
spend more time working/thinking about the idea than
maintaining and protecting the institution created to sustain
it. How can we understand that? Is somehow the organiztion
as a container or the idea violating the "idea without a
thinker?" Do we think the idea must by nature belong
to the sphere of mystery and not be earthbound? Does the
organization violate the idea by claiming to own/brand/trademark
it?
Or are we so enchanted by the idea that we
fail to work on institutionalizing it?
Observation and Comment....
Posted by Doug
Menikheim (24.245.10.182) on 14:33:45 30/05/04
Comment first: Thank you for your stimulating thoughts. As a
consultant deep in the process of helping a client transform
his mid-size organization, your thinking is a breath of fresh
air. I appreciate the different perspective.
My Observation relates to your Realm of the Invisible, specifically
Blue Notes. Prior to consulting with organizations, I practiced
leadership in the U.S.Navy while commanding three ships and a
shore station. A second career in academia evolved as I taught/learned
about what had made me a successful leader. One of the concepts
which emerged was the notion of having been able to "gain
control while giving up control." That has always been difficult
to explain, but less so now, thanks to being able to see I've
been focusing on "notes on the page" rather than the
space between the notes. Now the challenge is to be able to take
that understanding and transpose it into the pragmatic. Surely
Zen must say something about "tomorrows being made for new
challenges?"
Lectures to blogs---wonderful idea.
Discovering the Space Between
Posted by Leigh
Kibby (203.51.187.154) on 21:01:02 30/05/04
The "space beyween" can be revealed between leaders
and their people when leaders adopt "Noetic" practices
using tools akin to psychotherapuetic techniques.
In organisations I have helped establish a new "leader-follower" dialogue
that helps explore the hidden through revelation and the formation
of meaning.
I am also establishing a new map of human behaviour - the Psychological
Genome - that will also add to the picture.
I refer to:
Kibby, L., Härtel, C. E. J. & Hsu, A. (2004) Noetic
Leadership: Leadership Skills That Manage the Existential Dilemma.
Paper to be presented at Gallup Leadership Institute Conference,
Nebraska, USA
Kibby, L. & Härtel, C. E. J. (2004) Skills
that Enact the Behaviours of servant-Leadership. Paper to be
presented at Gallup Leadership Institute Conference, Nebraska,
USA
Kibby, L. & Härtel, C. E. J. (2004) Noetic
Leadership: Leadership Skills That Manage the Existential Dilemma.
Paper presented at British Academy of Management Conference,
Leeds, England
Kibby, L. & Härtel, C. E. J. (2004) The Behaviours
of Servant-Leadership : Skills That Enact the Spiritual Union
of Servant-leadership and Emotional Intelligence. Paper presented
at British Academy of Management Conference, Leeds, England.
Kibby, L. & Härtel, C. E. J. (2002). Intelligent
emotions management: Insights and strategies for managers and
leaders. Paper presented at the 3rd Bi-Annual Meeting of the
Emotions in Organizational Life Conference, Gold Coast, Australia.
Some thoughts
Posted by Michael Speer (152.163.252.161) on
09:27:40 31/05/04
Dear Georgia,
Thanks for putting yourself out into the world like this.
There are three things that (right now) strike me particularly
about your lecture.
The first is your notion of the space between, the regions
not controlled by the organization--often realms of creativity,
power, and innovation. I think about our GR conferences institutional
events where my experience has been that we do not send consultants
to work with groups occupying unauthorized space and probably
will not admit representatives of such groups to talk with
the staff. I wonder what we might be missing here, and, of
course, struggle with the possibility of anarchy if groups
did authorize themselves? The Reformation; the French
Revolution. It gets to the scary disruption you write about.
How can any person or group be truly and fully authorized by
others--as opposed to being de-authorized by others (I
realize that it is the space which is authorized but the ramifications
redound to the group)? Or as opposed to being authorized
to do only a certain (relatively small) thing? I
think about TQM and empowerment as examples of organizational
faux authorization. How authorized are official skunk works? Perhaps
this is related to our seeing modest changes in seating arrangements
as large innovations in our conferences.
Second, I am thinking more about the child who birthed the
mother now collaborating in being re-organized away from the
mother. I do not know now how to hold this, but I will say
that my personal disorientation is a manifestation of the disruption
of this change.
Finally, a quick note to say that as a historian I know well
Santayana s warning about those who do not know history being
condemned to repeat it. Maybe condemned is too strong a word.
My thought is that, know it or not, we do often (usually?) repeat
it, and our memories are very short. One answer you suggest
to me for this quandary is that we might experience the there-and-then
powerfully and profoundly enough in the here-and-now that it
would make a difference.
I hope to hear from you on this.
Re: Some thoughts
Posted by Georgia Sorenson (205.188.116.130) on 16:17:17
01/06/04
In Reply to: Some thoughts posted by Michael
Speer
I, too, am interested in the concept of unauthorized space and
I wonder what we gain and lose in conferences by failing to take
it up.
It does demark a boundary, and that always leads to rich material
and learning. In some cases, unauthorized space means NON-PUBLIC
space, eg, PRIVATE space. I am certainly in favor of retaining
some private space-- one of the problems of presidents is there
is NO unauthorized space, which leads to some bizarre
behavior. Teenagers have a wonderful time in
unauthorized space, I have found.
I met a man in England who consulted to South African diamond
mine companies. He said that these companies often tell their
senior people to go out into non-formal space and create partnerships.
The thinking is a lot more creative in those venues, he says.
"
Unauthorized" is such a loaded term.
leadership and the idea......................
Posted by Joseph Bocchino (216.114.169.178) on
03:48:59 03/06/04
Truly a thought (idea) provoking talk!!
As I listen to Sorenson speak of ideas as "the invisible
leader", and Burns reinforcing the need to preserve the
original idea I am drawn (perhaps once again) into
the "space between". I wonder if, the essence of
leadership emerges in the nuances and rhythms that we each
as individuals hear (generate and render forth) to
the idea, before us - as individuals? Who is to say what
Walt Disney would have done in 2004 - he truly would delight
us all once again!
Leadership, ideas, and history........
Posted by Joseph Bocchino (216.114.169.178) on
04:08:08 03/06/04
Can it be that in our haste to innovate, we have lost sight
of the "task" to make new again, as Dr. Sorenson reminds
us? I ask this question, because, as I reflect on this talk
in the "here and now", I can't help but wonder
how much history is blindly passed over in the educational processes
today; how much history is lost with the passing of our predecessors; and
how much history is intentionally discarded by those of us too
zealous to make history that we relegate great ideas to shelves
holding great books. How do we balance the primordial, rational
human preoccupation with form, over the biological, autopoietic
and emergent nature of human preoccupations?
"On Beyond..."
Posted by Toni Ward (205.222.240.2) on
11:54:58 07/06/04
More mundane, practical application:
At an AKRI Conference on the west coast, about 10 years ago,
an inter-group asked to share space w/an authorized group that
was meeting in an authorized space. There was agreement between
the two groups but Staff wasn't able to tolerate such collaboration.
I've been a musician for MANY years but have recently begun
to formally study jazz chord construction. What an exciting revelation
to write out the arpeggios so I can SEE, concretely, the treasured
spaces between notes ! Toni
Re: "On Beyond..."
Posted by Georgia Sorenson (205.188.116.130) on 16:42:52
09/06/04
In Reply to: "On Beyond..." posted
by Toni Ward
I have been wondering more about unauthorized work, since reading
your comments. If we authorized unauthorized space, what would
we lose?
Maybe alot. I think it is wise to remember that organizations are not our friends (to
quote a recent article by Hal Leavitt -- they seek to preserve themselves,
often at the cost of individuals. US presidents have little unauthorized space
and this is a problem, I think.
Sometimes unauthorized space is a refuge. Thanks, Toni.
authorization and the space beyond: a systemic
look at leading ideas and their followers
Posted by michael
enders (147.9.192.43) on 19:04:10 08/06/04
(Georgia:
2 weeks to answer your world in words? Not enough time.
And I hate typing in this little box. And blah blah etc.
I will email you my complete response in the hope that you
can get the time extended and post it with your lecture.
As you read what follows, know that there's another Hegelian
world hidden in the white space between the stories. As has
been my wont, I shall circulate it within the Center via the
unauthorized space of the samizdat.
Surely you did not write such a wonderful and idea-provoking
lecture in just 2 weeks. I have tried to finish my response
in the allotted period but Margaret and Joe and Leroy and Marvin
keep whispering in my ear and I've not had the time to
get it all down.)
- - -AUTHORIZATION AND THE SPACE BEYOND- - -
A Systemic Look At Leading Ideas And Their Followers
MARGARET RIOCH
It was, I believe, in 1971 that Margaret Rioch taught her first
experiential group process course to university students. As
an American University professor, she, with some trepidation,
offered a mini-conference, (during a semester's class
time), to doctoral students in clinical psychology and
to those undergraduates who could convince her that they could
withstand the rigors of the experience. After I arrogantly
assured her that of course I wouldn't be bothered by the
stress in this thing she was planning that I knew nothing about,
a decidedly amused Margaret admitted me to the membership, (the
experiential section of the class).
Proceedings in the first group session, (large), got
off to an abysmal start. I was frustrated as hell. Why couldn't
anyone see what the deal was: you could say whatever you wanted
and Margaret would just comment on what she thought was happening.
A group of generally bright and assertive individuals was being
as timid and boring and polite and politic as they possibly
could be. The clinical doctoral students were making me wonder
how on earth they'd chosen their field, and all in all
things were pretty damn lame.
Finally, when I could take no more and Margaret said something
I disagreed with, I saw my chance, and loudly announced that
I thought she was completely full of shit. The shocked heads
of the members swiveled as one, mouths agape, to look at the
lunatic who had spoken so rudely to this nice, polite, refined,
white-haired lady professor.
Within a minute and a half Margaret offered an interpretation,
concerning how the group saw her and her role, in which her
supporting data list included, right in the middle, my statement
that she was completely full of shit. She made it seem just
as normal as all the timid stuff which comprised the rest of
her list.
The heads which turned to look at me after Margaret spoke were
fewer but a great deal wiser than those that spun about after
I had spoken.
It was my first collaboration with Margaret, and I shall treasure
it always.
In the terms of our current discussion, the question might
be framed: Is the realm of the obscene an authorized space?
Then, yes; now, less so.
P.S.:
About the time I first met Margaret, I also made the acquaintance
of a fellow undergraduate student - a tall gaunt and mysterious
young blond woman named Georgia Strausburg. As the woman appeared
to be trouble, I tried to maintain a safe distance from her.
And trouble she was indeed!
Margaret, (the first female psychologist on staff there),
had arranged for A.U. students to do internships at the nearby
and prestigious Chestnut Lodge Mental Hospital.
It came to pass that some audacious student interns, led by
their ringleader, this Georgia woman, concluded that a particular
patient was being badly served by the hospital staff and was
in need of rescue.
This group of brazen outlaws proceeded to liberate the patient
in question to an off-campus apartment, whose location they
would reveal to no one.
Well you can imagine the uproar: Hospital staff were irate,
the internship program was said to be endangered, university
faculty questioned the propriety of undergraduates being given
such responsibilities - but the liberators held their ground.
Only Margaret, who might as well have been directing a conference,
kept her cool and negotiated an end to the impasse.
While she's not the type to ask for stories about herself,
this troublesome, principled and courageous ringleader woman
Georgia has had a place in my heart to this day.
Although I hear that her last name is a little different now,
and she doesn't look exactly the same, I like to imagine
that today she's somewhere teaching leadership to others. (Those
who can do, should teach.)
Re: authorization and the space beyond: a systemic
look at leading ideas and their followers
Posted by Georgia Sorenson (205.188.116.130) on 17:06:01
09/06/04
In Reply to: authorization and the space beyond: a
systemic look at leading ideas and their followers
posted by michael enders
Well, Michael, I am so glad you jumped in because you are one
of the few people who really know about our beginnings. What
a wonderful story about your own courage and Margaret's mastery.
I don't think I went to that conference but I do remember
one shortly thereafter in which Margaret, as director, stopped
the conference for several hours as I recall and asked everyone
to go out and look for a missing member she was concerned about. (He
was found and returned to the conference as I recall).
I guess I was trouble then and trouble now, but
doing GRC in my early 20s was enormously helpful in understanding
what was MY trouble and what was
somebody else's who wanted to dump it on me.
For example, the Chestnut Lodge incident you refer
to is mostly true, however, I was NOT an intern but an employee
and my stance was that American
University had no business (or authority) in my life
outside of American University. Thank you thank you group relations....
PS The patient got better and I still hear from him. That said,
the great force and promise of de-institutionalization was a
bust, too.
Hey Georgia:
This lecture brings out and highlights universal concepts.
EGO AND LEADERSHIP
It disengages the leader from the ego. And realigns leadership
with the custodianship of ideas. [Note: possibly, because we
all have a tendency to want to shine, to be beloved, that we
endow the object that is shining with exceptional power, a power
that we would wish upon ourselves in a leadership position. The
power is not in the object itself, but in the light shinning
on it. This is the status of the leader.]
HISTORY AND HUMANESS
It dispels the illusion that a group is just a 3 dimensional
entity, by interjecting the dimension of time. This ennobles
the present, and ensures a potent future by the balance and
ballast of a weighty past. Plus history adds the patina of
humanity to ideas.
NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN
It shows the extreme rarity of a novel idea. Most ideas are
reshuffled, reapplied, resized, combined, and or compounded observations.
As the Doctor Seuss example inadvertently elucidates. Try to
imagine the need, use, and sound of a new letter for the alphabet;
you will thus encounter a novel idea. [Note: historically the
English alphabet has not always been 26 letters.]
METAPHOR ABOUT IDEAS
The diversity of life is made from 4 nucleic acid molecules
that are reshuffled, reapplied, combined, and compounded. The
diversity of English language and thought is made from 26 letters
reshuffled, reapplied, combined, and compounded. Twelve tones,
reshuffled, reapplied, combined, and compounded, comprise most
of western music. Creative thinking is allowing this reshuffling,
reapplying, combining, and compounding of ideas to occur.
A massive building is made of smaller bricks, that observation,
reapplied, initiated the theory of atoms.
OBSERVATION AND MERITING
To have ideas to manipulate, you must be a good observer, and
you must appreciate an idea. When you see a good idea, acknowledge
it to yourself, and try to award it some merit in your mind.
Tell someone else about it, to reinforce the idea in your mind.
Tagging an idea thusly allows you to remember it, and allows
it to resurface when needed.
Watching ships sink over the sea horizon, made the world round.
DISTRACTION
In my own attempts at creative thinking, I allow distraction,
and time. I often try to think, while allowing a distraction,
such as a radio show or a novel on tape. Indeed, if I start having
an insight, I acknowledge it and merit it and then I often immediately
allow distraction. I thus give the idea time to incubate. I inhibit
pre-maturity. I inhibit immediate mental constructs. Hopefully,
if the universe of ideas is a benign universe, the distraction
will in some way nourish the idea. If the idea realm is neutral,
at least, time is factored in. Maturity is an important component
of a sound idea – a time tested idea. Thus, slowing down
the process of contemplation by distraction has merit.
[Note: The more confident I am that my mind will bring the idea
to fruition, the easier it is to temporarily relinquish an idea.
Eventually, writing out your contemplated ideas, gives you confidence
in their permanence, and the process of writing is a retrieval
method of recalling submerged thought.]
IDEA ACCEPTANCE AND GROWTH
Fortunately, I don’t make my living by creating ideas.
I am not at the mercy of grants or beneficence. Thus, I can allow
an idea to slowly grow in acceptance by others, if need be. If
an idea needs a lot of nourishment, in the form of grants or
beneficence, then it will be competing with more established
ideas that may be sustained by such nourishment. Resource competition
is the source of most conflict.
A small idea left to grow under taller brush, will, if it is
hardy and if it seeks the light, eventually be nourished by the
decomposition of its predecessors. Occurring naturally without
any violent overthrow.
MY IDEAS
My ideas are not rocket science. Deeply complex thought requires
collaborative effort. Possibly the computer will allow collaborative
effort without massive government or private spending. I suspect
that the ownership of ideas, and the benefit of both monetary
and ego enhancement will necessarily need some curtailing, for
an open collaborative system to work. We may have to wait, but
in time, it will come to pass.
My kudos to Georgia Sorenson for ringing the bell -- ideas reverberate
with ideas. A bell is rung but all around ring.